From: Moritz Onken Date: Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:17:51 +0000 (+0000) Subject: Subject to this branch X-Git-Url: http://git.shadowcat.co.uk/gitweb/gitweb.cgi?a=commitdiff_plain;h=92b6fb5fcb5fdb12ee8788ce02672a00658fac92;p=dbsrgits%2FDBIx-Class-Historic.git Subject to this branch --- diff --git a/BRANCH b/BRANCH new file mode 100644 index 0000000..43cfad3 --- /dev/null +++ b/BRANCH @@ -0,0 +1,315 @@ +mo: ribasushi: are you pro or con wrt the extended join conditions? +[18:22] ribasushi: totally pro, but con scalarrefs +[18:22] ribasushi: and I'm a horrible designer +[18:23] ribasushi: so I say "tell me what to write and I'll write it better than you would" +[18:23] mo: and what about a second hashref which is parsed like search()? +[18:24] ribasushi: mo: show me what you mean +[18:25] mst: join => { 'foo' => { -attrs => { ... } } +[18:25] mo: has_many(accessor => 'CLASS', { foreign,self stuff }, { 'me.foo' => { '>' => 'accessor.bla' } } +[18:26] mst: and -attrs can then override the rel's defaults +[18:26] ash: mo: there's already a 4th arg to rels +[18:26] mo: mst: where would you put that in the has_many call? +[18:26] mst: mo: that's for search() syntax +[18:26] mo: ok so add another method next to has_many +[18:26] mst: no +[18:27] mst: I'm talking about overriding the join stuff in search() +[18:27] mo: I'm talking about extended join conditions +[18:27] mst: I am aware of that. I'm saying "we should do this at the same time" +[18:27] pktm hat den Chatroom betreten. +[18:28] ribasushi: I'm talking about both - it should be just like attrs - specifiable both on relationship and on searches +[18:28] mo: mst: what would you propose? +[18:28] ribasushi: and overridable accordingly of course +[18:28] mo: syntax I mean +[18:28] mst: does SQL::Abstract have a { -ident => 'foo.bar' } yet? +[18:29] ribasushi: explain? +[18:29] pktm: How do I (efficently) select the complement of a relation? I have products and categories, and I want to know the products, that are not assigned to a specific category. So what is complement( $category->products() )? +[18:29] mst: pktm: er +[18:29] mst: pktm: you mean not assigned to category X +[18:29] mst: pktm: or not assigned to -any- category ? +[18:29] pktm: not assigned to category X +[18:29] robkinyon: mst: I think I have a solution +[18:30] robkinyon: it's completely backwards INcompatible +[18:30] robkinyon: +[18:30] ribasushi: robkinyon: not interested +[18:30] robkinyon: but it solves all problems +[18:30] robkinyon: (including world peace) +[18:30] mo: ribasushi++ # who cares about backwards compat +[18:31] robkinyon: why don't we just allow the full search() syntax? +[18:31] ribasushi: mo: I don't give a fuck frankly, I just want *my* code to work +[18:31] robkinyon: it's being used to build a search() anyways +[18:31] arcanez: mst++ # being done +[18:31] mst: robkinyon: that would be -exactly- my plan +[18:31] mo: robkinyon++ +[18:31] mst: we add an extra relationship attribute +[18:31] mo: what about self and foreign? +[18:31] mst: that's a subref +[18:31] mst: that's supplied @_ of ($rs, $lhs_alias, $rhs_alias) +[18:32] mst: and is expected to return a chunk of search() params +[18:32] dhoss: arcanez: get your GSoC stuff figured out yet? +[18:32] robkinyon: and we implement the current code in terms of that? +[18:32] ribasushi: mst: *this* I love +[18:33] robkinyon: i can get behind this +[18:33] robkinyon: regardless of use-case need +[18:33] robkinyon: because this is a sane API +[18:33] mst: it eliminates the "deep finding of self/foreign in SQLA" problem +[18:33] mst: which was why I didn't want to do it before +[18:33] zamolxes hat den Chatroom verlassen. (Quit: leaving) +[18:33] mst: if the user wants to be clever, they get to handle that themselves +[18:33] robkinyon: it also eliminates the need for two SQL specification languages +[18:33] ribasushi: add_relationship receives two modes - either foreign./self. (for backcompat) or a regular search +[18:33] robkinyon: and standardizes on the one that we're actually working on +[18:33] ribasushi: and the helpers get adjusted to produce new code +[18:33] ribasushi: and then join_cond can override all that +[18:34] ribasushi: mst: that's what you mean? +[18:34] mst: sub { my ($rs, $self, $foreign) = @_; { "${self}.foo" => { '>', "${foreign}.bar" } }; } +[18:34] nigel hat den Chatroom verlassen. (Quit: nigel) +[18:34] mst: add_relationship can DWIm based on if it gets a hashref or a subref in the join position +[18:34] robkinyon: what about \{ ... } ? +[18:34] mst: robkinyon: stop. think. +[18:34] robkinyon: if it receives HREFREF, then it's just a search() args? +[18:34] mo: what about an object +[18:35] robkinyon: and that maps closely in terms of how things work right now to pass through +[18:35] mst: wtf +[18:35] mst: no. +[18:36] mst: we can't just provide raw search args +[18:36] mst: otherwise we have to recurse the full SQLA tree to substitute aliases +[18:36] mst: which is a horrible job +[18:36] mst: part of the reason for SQLA2 is to have somewhere we can do non horrible AQT comprehensions +[18:36] mst: hence: subref +[18:36] ribasushi: hear hear +[18:36] mst: which delegates the problem to the user +[18:36] arcanez: dhoss: plan to work on it once I watch a rather subdued mst +[18:36] robkinyon: ok +[18:37] dhoss: subdued mst? that's not fun... +[18:37] robkinyon: subref it is +[18:37] mst: we don't need to modify the helpers though +[18:37] mst: well +[18:37] arcanez: his dbix::class talk, wasn't it at 8am? +[18:37] mst: resolve_join should switch to generating basic SQLA +[18:37] mst: the only reason it ever didn't +[18:37] mst: was SQLA had no way to represent identifiers on the RHS +[18:37] mst: and the subref should just return SQLA +[18:38] fade hat den Chatroom verlassen. (Quit: Leaving.) +[18:38] ribasushi: these are implementation details which do not matter much +[18:39] ribasushi: sqla does not support FROM at all, it is all done in Hacks anyway +[18:39] ribasushi: talking about 1.5 of course +[18:39] robkinyon: so, we agreed on a design? +[18:40] solar_ant hat den Chatroom betreten. +[18:40] mst: robkinyon: right, but this cleanup +[18:40] mst: ribasushi: +[18:40] mst: moves us towards being able to move it to SQLA +[18:40] Psyche^ hat den Chatroom betreten. +[18:40] mst: we didn't yet becaue ldami pointed out, quite rightly, that the DBIC interface was inconsistent +[18:40] mst: we're about to fix that +[18:40] Patterner hat den Chatroom verlassen. (Read error: Connection reset by peer) +[18:40] Psyche^ heißt jetzt Patterner. +[18:40] ribasushi: mst: of course, I do try to isolate chunks as I go +[18:41] robkinyon: which means that ash and i better beat up SQLA2 quickly +[18:41] ribasushi: but anyway - can someone type up an actual example for me +[18:41] ribasushi: one for add_relationship +[18:41] ribasushi: and one for search() +[18:41] ribasushi: something I can turn into a test (or if someone submits an is_same_sql test - that'd be golden) +[18:41] robkinyon: search() doesn't change here, does it? +[18:41] ribasushi: sigh +[18:42] ribasushi: of course it does - there's no point to do it otherwise +[18:42] robkinyon: i thought the point was to unfuck add_relationship()? +[18:42] ribasushi: i.e. not "changes" but supports an extra attribute +[18:42] robkinyon: no .... +[18:42] robkinyon: mst? +[18:42] purl: i guess mst is wrong it is a hard way to write handles => qr/.*/ or a young whippersnapper from nigel's exalted position or planning to port the world to moose or working on serializable meta with another approach or simply a wanker or a bot or really a peach or a blunt or faster than light or a bitter betty or ~13 times better than sex +[18:42] ribasushi: robkinyon: how do you supply bind values to a join if you set it on the relationship in stone +[18:43] robkinyon: Scalar::Alias? +[18:44] robkinyon: Scalar::Defer +[18:44] purl: i heard Scalar::Defer was one of them, is a nice module, does nice stuff +[18:44] ribasushi: robkinyon: Rainbow::Pony ? +[18:44] ribasushi: be practical +[18:44] arcanez: "are we fucked" "no because we didn't get to the pub in time to pull" +[18:44] arcanez: hahahahaha +[18:44] purl: LOLCON 5 reached. +[18:44] robkinyon: ribasushi: Scalar::Defer is practical +[18:45] robkinyon: at least mst has thought so in the past +[18:45] mst: I like Data::Thunk better but nothingmuch is convinced it can't be 100% fixed and won't explain why well enough for me to try and prove him wrong +[18:45] robkinyon: ribasushi: the point is that we want to defer resolution of the bindvars +[18:46] mst: that's easy +[18:46] robkinyon: that way, it becomes purely an add_relationship problem +[18:46] mst: no rob, it doesn't +[18:46] robkinyon: and search() is unaffected +[18:46] mst: searhch needs extending as well +[18:46] robkinyon: to do what? +[18:46] mst: { join => { 'foo' => { -attrs => { join_args => [ 3 ] } } } +[18:47] arcanez: mst: who's writing HashMap for moose? +[18:47] ribasushi: mst: how about overrides on the spot? or that's too much foo? +[18:47] ribasushi: I mean search to override the entire relship construction, only self. foreign. remain static +[18:48] robkinyon: either way, have fun +[18:48] • robkinyon & # errands +[18:48] ribasushi: or hell - join without a relationship altogether +[18:48] ribasushi: as in the case of self-join to figure out "last row" +[18:48] mst: has_many('foo', $f_class, sub { my ($rs, $self, $foreign, $arg) = @_; { "${self}.id" => "${foreign}.bar_id", "${foreign}.weight" => { '>', $arg } }, ...); +[18:48] mst: so you get +[18:48] ribasushi: mst: I get that part +[18:48] mst: LEFT JOIN foo ON me.id = foo.bar_id AND foo.weight > 3 +[18:49] ribasushi: I'm saying how do you feel about search ({}, { join => { a definition that is not a relationship, but which will produce a join nevertheless } }); +[18:50] ribasushi: example here: http://lists.scsys.co.uk/pipermail/dbix-class/2009-June/008095.html +[18:50] ribasushi: I don't need anything from the right side, I just need the join to limit the left side properly +[18:51] mst: anonymous joins will discourage re-use and completely fuck us introspection wise +[18:51] mst: I don't want to do that yet +[18:51] mst: we -will- +[18:51] ribasushi: fair enough +[18:51] mst: but I don't want to add too much stuff at once +[18:51] ribasushi: mst++ #conservatism +[18:53] mst: mo: so, you up for writing tests for this? +[18:54] mo: I think David Ihnen is up to it, I was just trying to bring this to _your_ attention +[18:54] ribasushi: except david ihnen is not reading this +[18:55] mo: so you have to convince him by mail +[18:55] mst: mo: so write up the conversation to an outline +[18:55] mst: and reply to the list saying "if somebody writes spec tests we can make it happen" +[18:55] mst: you don't have to be me to shout well volunteered +[18:55] mst: you just have to look them in the eye and have them believe you already know they'll say yes +[18:56] mo: I didn't get that add_relationship part +[18:56] mo: does it even matter? +[18:56] mst: yes +[18:57] mst: without the add_relationship part none of this will work at all +[18:57] mo: but is it required for the tests? +[18:57] mst: yes +[18:57] mst: how can you write tests for something that can't work? +[18:57] mo: so I have to call add_relationship in my test? +[18:57] mst: what? +[18:57] mst: what the fuck are you talking about? +[18:57] mo: has_many calls add_relationship right? +[18:57] mst: this is the DBIC test suite +[18:57] mst: it's got a fucktonne of rels +[18:57] mst: just add another one +[18:58] pktm hat den Chatroom verlassen. +[18:58] mo: can you tell me your weight so I can add it to the actors result class? +[18:58] pktm hat den Chatroom betreten. +[18:58] mst: I haven't weighed myself in ten years +[18:59] pktm hat den Chatroom verlassen. +[18:59] dnm: mst weight is made up of 90% human, 10% pure unadulterated rage. +[18:59] • ilmari guesses about 75kg +[18:59] dnm: s/mst/mst's/ +[18:59] dhoss: mo i'm 165, kthx +[18:59] mst: I'm probably 14 stone ish? maybe a bit less +[18:59] ilmari: judging by the fact that he's slightly taller and slightly skinnier than me +[18:59] mst: I dunno +[18:59] dhoss: dnm: you forget the beer part +[19:00] ilmari: convert 75 kg to stone +[19:00] purl: 75 kg is 11.8105 stone. +[19:00] mst: hmm. I was 12 stone ish many years back +[19:00] mo: convert 14 stine to kg +[19:00] purl: I don't know how to convert 14 stine to kg. +[19:00] dhoss: purl: convert 11.8105 stone to pounds +[19:00] purl: 11.8105 stone is 165.347 pounds. +[19:00] ribasushi: dhoss: he does evacuate occasionally...? +[19:00] mst: I think you're ignoring the beer gut. +[19:00] mo: convert 14 stone to kg +[19:00] purl: 14 stone is 88.9041 kg. +[19:00] • ilmari is somewhere between 75-80kg +[19:00] dhoss: ribasushi: i figured it couldn't hurt to average +[19:00] ribasushi: convert 82kg to stone +[19:00] purl: 82kg is 12.9128 stone. +[19:00] ribasushi: convert 82kg to lb +[19:00] purl: 82kg is 180.779 lb. +[19:00] • ribasushi 's a fatass +[19:01] dhoss: mst: you're what, 6'2" +[19:01] mo: convert 6'" to meters +[19:01] purl: I don't know how to convert 6'" to meters. +[19:01] dhoss: ribasushi: how tall? +[19:01] mst: huh +[19:01] mst: 71kg +[19:01] mo: convert 6'2" to meters +[19:01] purl: I don't know how to convert 6'2" to meters. +[19:01] ilmari: purl: convert 6ft+2in to m +[19:01] purl: Syntax error +[19:01] ilmari: purl: convert 6.333ft to m +[19:01] purl: 6.333ft is 1.9303 m. +[19:01] mst: and I'm 6' +[19:01] ribasushi: dhoss: 194cm, but I'm rather skinny, was at 75 up until 2yrs ago +[19:01] mst: if my back was straight I'd be taller +[19:01] ilmari: purl: convert 6.16ft to m +[19:01] purl: 6.16ft is 1.87757 m. +[19:02] mst: but I've spent too long slouching so my spine is curved +[19:02] ribasushi: now I am still mostly skinny +[19:02] dhoss: purl: convert 194cm to feet +[19:02] purl: 194cm is 6.36483 feet. +[19:02] dhoss: ribasushi: tall guy +[19:02] • dhoss is short apparently +[19:02] ribasushi: well if we're factoring spine curvature +[19:02] ribasushi: I'm normally 191-2 +[19:03] mst: I literally can't stand up straighter than that +[19:03] dhoss: ribasushi: still, i'm only 5'10" +[19:03] mo: ok guys please fill out that form with your weight and size so I can include it with the dbic test suite and do an extended relationship on it: http://etherpad.com/jeAQjdub7M +[19:03] arcanez: I'm 6'1", 190lbs +[19:03] mst: mo: why not just use the year field on cds? +[19:03] mo: it's more fun this way +[19:03] dnm: I'm 6'0", a lot lbs. +[19:04] dhoss: huh. i haven't felt this short since middle school haha. +[19:04] arcanez: so yeah, don't bother trying to understand http://www.shadowcat.co.uk/archive/conference-video/yapc-na-2009/lightning/ +[19:04] dnm: But, I am 15lbs lighter than I was 1 month ago. +[19:04] arcanez: oh, he apologizes at the beginning +[19:04] • dhoss actually gained 10lbs +[19:05] arcanez: dhoss: p90x? +[19:05] ribasushi: that pad thingy is nifty +[19:05] dhoss: arcanez: no, before that, i'm not sure what caused it +[19:06] mo: wtf is using chrome? +[19:06] • arcanez raises hand +[19:07] mst: I'm waiting for them to learn how to write desktop code +[19:07] arcanez: convert 190 pounds to stone +[19:07] purl: 190 pounds is 13.5714 stone. +[19:07] arcanez: convert 190 pounds to kg +[19:07] purl: 190 pounds is 86.1826 kg. +[19:08] mo: we should start coding in that editor +[19:08] arcanez: convert 6.1 ft to m +[19:08] purl: 6.1 ft is 1.85928 m. +[19:08] frew: ribasushi: ok, I've reviewed most of this. I'll read through the rest tomorrow and then commence testing +[19:08] ribasushi: frew++ +[19:09] frew: in other news: Firefox 3.5! +[19:09] • ilmari has been using it happily on karmic since beta4, waiting for jaunty backport +[19:10] arcanez: ilmari: jaunty uses amarok2 huh +[19:10] frew: amarok2-- +[19:10] arcanez: frew: there aren't enough -- for that +[19:10] frew: amarok2-- for (1..10**10); +[19:10] ilmari: arcanez: I don't use amarok +[19:10] arcanez: +[19:10] frew: ok maybe that's a little harsh +[19:10] ilmari: jaunty has amarok 2.1 +[19:10] frew: I really like amarok +[19:11] ilmari: s/jaunty/karmic/ +[19:11] frew: and 2 is good; but it's got bugs that make me cry +[19:11] ilmari: kde4.2 is annoying +[19:11] arcanez: I <3 amarok1 +[19:11] ilmari: less so after I switched off compositing, which is just buggy beyond belief +[19:11] ribasushi: frew: don/t forget t/42toplimit.t - it needs a massive rewrite to set the new query syntax in stone +[19:11] arcanez: I use iTunes on Windows 7 at home though +[19:11] arcanez: ilmari: I'm a gnome guy +[19:11] arcanez: perhaps I'd like E +[19:11] • ilmari ponders trying awseome +[19:11] frew: ribasushi: we'll burn that bridge tomorrow +[19:12] ribasushi: yup, just re-nagging +[19:12] arcanez: someone buy me a mac mini +[19:12] ilmari: arcanez: I use gnome on karmic at home, but at work I like the ability to grow and pack windows with the keyboard +[19:12] mo: how do I create a branch? +[19:12] arcanez: is karmic the next ubuntu release name? +[19:12] mo: ribasushi: can you branch it for me? +[19:12] arcanez: mo: svn cp +[19:12] ilmari: arcanez: yeh, 9.10 LTS aka karmic koala +[19:12] ribasushi: mo: sv[kn] cp +[19:13] ilmari: 10.04 hasn't been named yet +[19:13] mo: dbic svn? +[19:13] purl: dbic svn is probably http://dev.catalyst.perl.org/repos/bast/DBIx-Class +[19:13] arcanez: ilmari: what # whas jaunty +[19:13] • ilmari hopes for leaping llama +[19:13] ilmari: arcanez: 9.04 +[19:13] ilmari: it's . +[19:13] • dhoss still needs to update +[19:13] ilmari: rather, . +[19:14] ilmari: which works nicely for such a young distro +[19:14] mo: arcanez: ribasushi thanks +[19:14] ribasushi: we should switch dbic versions to that .0MM0DD +[19:14] arcanez: ribasushi: that wouldn't get confusing +[19:15] mst: ribasushi: VOM +[19:15] arcanez: purl, vom? +[19:15] purl: vom is, like, volt-ohm-meter +[19:15] mo: ribasushi: Y-2000.DDD +[19:15] ribasushi: mst: vom? +[19:15] purl: i think vom is volt-ohm-meter +[19:16] ribasushi: hm