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-New build system! Needs testing!
+Getting people to use SDL Perl: Docs, API, and Distribution
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-<div style="text-align: right;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><i>Rome was not built,</i></span></i><br />
-<i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><i>in one day,</i></span></i></div><div style="text-align: right;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><i>&nbsp;feature creep,</i></span></i><br />
-<i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><i>existed back then too.</i></span></i><br />
-<i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><i><br />
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-<div style="text-align: left;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><a href="http://github.com/kmx">kmx</a>++ recently worked on a brand new Build system for Alien::SDL and SDL_perl. We have managed to test it in Windows and Linux environments. We would still appreciate testing on all&nbsp;environments. However none of us have a shiny Mac to try this on. So if you have a Mac please consider testing the following:</span></i></div><div style="text-align: left;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><br />
-</span></i></div><div style="text-align: left;"></div><ul><li style="text-align: left;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Download <a href="http://github.com/kthakore/Alien_SDL/tarball/master">Alien::SDL</a>&nbsp;</span></i></li>
+<h4><i>The road so far</i></h4><br />
+Things have been busy but fruitful. Our two core modules are getting to be a bit more stable. <a href="http://matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=Alien-SDL+1.403">Alien::SDL 1.405</a> is behaving well. This foundational stability will start to show results in <a href="http://matrix.cpantesters.org/?dist=SDL+2.405">SDL</a> too I believe. Most excitingly the main developer of frozen-bubble is reviewing our <a href="http://search.cpan.org/~kthakore/Games-FrozenBubble-2.202/lib/Games/FrozenBubble.pm">Games::FrozenBubble</a> port to CPAN. All good and well, but to keep this project going we need to improve.<br />
+<br />
+<h4><i>Getting people to use SDL Perl</i></h4><br />
+After a long chat with a new SDL user on #sdl today, I realize we still have some way to go. Currently it seems we are lacking in a few areas. We can definitely use some feedback and help in these areas. <br />
+<br />
+<ul><li>Tutorials/Documentation<br />
+</li>
 
-<ul><li style="text-align: left;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">install it</span></i></li>
-<li style="text-align: left;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">select build by source</span></i></li>
-</ul>
-<li style="text-align: left;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Download <a href="http://github.com/kthakore/SDL_perl/tarball/redesign">SDL::perl</a></span></i></li>
+<ul><li>We have more docs now on http://sdl.perl.org but they suck</li>
+<li>What type of tutorials do you think will be good for beginners?</li>
 
-<ul><li style="text-align: left;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Extract it</span></i></li>
-<li style="text-align: left;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">perl Build.PL</span></i></li>
-<li style="text-align: left;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">perl Build</span></i></li>
-<li style="text-align: left;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">See if Bundling works ( Maybe Brian's <a href="http://blogs.perl.org/users/brian_d_foy/2010/02/i-almost-have-sdl-perl-working-on-snow-leopard.html">article</a>&nbsp;may help )</span></i></li>
-</ul></ul><div style="text-align: left;"><i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">Thank you very much!</span></i><br />
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-<i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">EDIT:&nbsp;</span></i><br />
-<i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">&nbsp;After some&nbsp; reports back we have found out that SDL_gfx needs&nbsp;</span></i><br />
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-<i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">http://cblfs.cross-lfs.org/index.php/SDL_gfx#64Bit</span></i><br />
-<i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;"><br />
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-<i><span class="Apple-style-span" style="font-style: normal;">We are working to get this done.</span></i></div></div><i></i><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3102167581424744259-7073479532507652908?l=yapgh.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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+<ul><li>A project start to finish?</li>
+<li>Individual tutorials for various topics?</li>
+<li>What needs to go in SDL::CookBook?</li>
+</ul></ul>
+<li>API sweetness</li>
+
+<ul><li>SDL Perl depends on distinct C libraries</li>
+
+<ul><li>This makes naming conventions, data formats different the SDL:: namespaces</li>
+<li>How do people design this stuff?</li>
+
+<ul><li>We are hackers and we just go do stuff but I think this needs some prior thought</li>
+<li>Any takers?</li>
+</ul></ul></ul>
+<li>Distribution</li>
+
+<ul><li>If SDL scripts can be packaged up simply for game developers to distribute their games it will be a big plus</li>
+
+<ul><li>One way is a Wx::Perl::Packer clone</li>
+<li>Another is a CPAN/Steam clone that game devs can upload games too and people can point and click download games?&nbsp;</li>
+</ul></ul></ul><div>If anyone wants to help in these areas please talk to us on sdl-devel@perl.org.&nbsp;</div><div class="blogger-post-footer"><img width='1' height='1' src='https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/tracker/3102167581424744259-7164362190686365958?l=yapgh.blogspot.com' alt='' /></div>
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