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diff --git a/.travis.yml b/.travis.yml
index b1fdcb5..2f7a767 100644
--- a/.travis.yml
+++ b/.travis.yml
@@ -69,28 +69,19 @@ env:
 
 matrix:
   include:
-    # minimum supported with threads
-    - perl: 5.8.5_thr
-      env:
-        - CLEANTEST=false
-        - BREWOPTS="-Duseithreads"
-        - BREWVER=5.8.5
-        - DBIC_TRACE_PROFILE=console
-
-    # minimum supported without threads
-    - perl: 5.8.3_nt
+    # this particular perl is quite widespread
+    - perl: 5.8.8_thr_mb
       env:
-        - CLEANTEST=false
-        - BREWOPTS=""
-        - BREWVER=5.8.3
-        - DBIC_TRACE_PROFILE=console_monochrome
+        - CLEANTEST=true
+        - BREWOPTS="-Duseithreads -Dusemorebits"
+        - BREWVER=5.8.8
 
-    # check CLEANTEST of minimum supported
-    - perl: 5.8.3_nt_mb
+    # so is this one (test a sane CPAN.pm)
+    - perl: 5.12.4_thr_mb
       env:
         - CLEANTEST=true
-        - BREWOPTS="-Dusemorebits"
-        - BREWVER=5.8.3
+        - BREWOPTS="-Duseithreads -Dusemorebits"
+        - BREWVER=5.12.4
 
     # this is the perl suse ships
     - perl: 5.10.0_thr_dbg
@@ -99,14 +90,32 @@ matrix:
         - BREWOPTS="-DDEBUGGING -Duseithreads"
         - BREWVER=5.10.0
 
-    # this particular perl is quite widespread
-    - perl: 5.8.8_thr_mb
+    # CLEANTEST of minimum supported
+    - perl: 5.8.3_nt_mb
       env:
         - CLEANTEST=true
-        - BREWOPTS="-Duseithreads -Dusemorebits"
-        - BREWVER=5.8.8
+        - BREWOPTS="-Dusemorebits"
+        - BREWVER=5.8.3
+
+    # Full Test of minimum supported with threads
+    - perl: 5.8.5_thr
+      env:
+        - CLEANTEST=false
+        - BREWOPTS="-Duseithreads"
+        - BREWVER=5.8.5
+        - DBIC_TRACE_PROFILE=console
 
+    # Full Test of minimum supported without threads
+    - perl: 5.8.3_nt
+      env:
+        - CLEANTEST=false
+        - BREWOPTS=""
+        - BREWVER=5.8.3
+        - DBIC_TRACE_PROFILE=console_monochrome
+
+    ###
     # some permutations of tracing and envvar poisoning
+
     - perl: 5.18.1_thr_mb
       env:
         - CLEANTEST=false
@@ -135,6 +144,7 @@ matrix:
         - POISON_ENV=true
         - DBIC_TRACE=1
         - DBIC_TRACE_PROFILE=console_monochrome
+        - DBIC_MULTICREATE_DEBUG=0
 
     ###
     # Start of the allow_failures block
@@ -165,6 +175,7 @@ matrix:
 
   # which ones of the above can fail
   allow_failures:
+    # these run with various dev snapshots - allowed to fail
     - perl: devcpan_5.18.1_thr_mb
     - perl: bleadperl_thr_mb
     - perl: devcpan_bleadperl_thr_mb