< alh> mst: You're far too kind
< mst> alh: not something I get accused of often :D
< alh> A part of me did die inside while typing that
+%
+< mst> plicease: "I've gone blind, Arthur!" "No you haven't, you're
+ wearing your peril sensitive sunglasses and it's 2022"
+< thrig> perl sensitive sunglasses might be reasonable
+%
+< two2thehead> By legalizing Cannabis and same-sex marriage we finally
+ interpreted the bible correctly
+< two2thehead> "A man who lays with another man should be stoned"
+%
+< revhippie> It's the Gordon Ramsay of code review?
+< TieUpYourCamel> well yeah except Gordon Ramsay doesn't do "gentle"
+< thrig> paging Dr. mst paging Dr. mst code to review
+%
+< Altreus> this is so weird ... does this just not work or something
+< thrig> a) firewall b) proxy c) other
+< Altreus> literally just installed it on my digital ocean
+< thrig> c) cloud d) other
+%
+21:42 < cat-xeger> I'm sure there are better things in this world than a comfy
+ heated chair and a purring cat, but... can't think of any
+[...]
+22:24 < cat-xeger> different, more demanding cat, same setup
+%
+< zelest> the "h" in "system development" stands for happiness
+%
+< nox> mst: Do you have weird people with sticks, who pretend they can
+ find water sources with them?
+< mst> nox: ohhh, dowsing rods
+< nox> mst: This thread has people using dowsing rods to find gas pipes
+%
+< ilmari> I'm going to bruges with some friends of mine in november, and
+ they're planning on getting the 08:16 eurostar
+< ilmari> I might just get the 18:04 the day before …
+< DrHyde> hours with a zero in them just shouldn't be allowed.
+%
+< mst> mostly I refer to en_US as either 'English (rebellious colonial)'
+ or 'English (but afraid of the letter u)'
+< Myon> 'English (center of the world)' and 'English (centre of the world)'
+< Berge> "English (favourite language)", "English (favorite language)"
+%
+< mst> but also this is the spirit of perl
+< mst> if we hadn't already decided we could live with that trade-off,
+ why the fuck are we even here? :D
+< ether> habit
+%
+< kerio> [patrik]: i was thinking of occasionally selecting a field or two
+ and inserting and reading back 500mb of json blob
+< [patrik]> 500mb of json seems to be a broken design. whats in that json?
+< rk4> pain
+%
+< zelest> Me and the lady booked a cabin like that going from Berlin to Sweden
+< zelest> The train boards a ship and goes by sea to Sweden
+< zelest> So.. I've literally had sex on a train AND a boat at the same time!
+< zelest> #weirdflex
+%
+<cat-xeger> "slept" like crap last night... was also a cat highway
+%
+< cat-xeger> It's 03:30 here.
+< erry> F
+< erry> RIP
+< erry> that's a forbidden hour xD
+%
+< Nicholas> Beware of low flying meetings
+ * ilmari spots one on the horizon (16:00)
+ * ilmari decides he wants a steak sandwich
+< ilmari> decision paralysis, what's that?
+< Nicholas> a recipie for starvation
+%
+< kd> this is bad code, it's got cancer
+< kd> in fact it's so bad its cancer has got cancer
+%
+< gwern> a programmer goes to his psychiatrist. 'doc, I keep seeing giant
+ snakes in my dreams attacking me, do I have penis problems?
+ FREUD: "No, you just have Python dependency and migration problems.
+ I'm afraid psychoanalysis is powerless to help. That will be $120.
+%
+<erry> they have nitro cold brew in this wework
+<erry> i want to try that at some point
+<erry> they might have to remove me from the london eye when i climb it
+<erry> but that's a small sacrifice to make
+%
+< simcop2387> ok car names work too well when prefixed with "Anal". Ford: Anal
+ Explorer, Anal Focus, Anal Fiesta. Dodge: Anal Charger, Anal
+ Challenger, Anal Avenger, Anal Ram. Jeep: Anal Wrangler.
+< simcop2387> oh and Ford: Anal Probe
+%
+< pragma-> sticky headers and footers are kind of annoying
+< pragma-> especially the ones that appear only when you scroll up
+< thrig> there's a sticky header in irssi
+< LeoNerd> I had a sticky footer once...turned out someone had spilled treacle
+%
+< Altreus> Remember <noscript>? We should have that but for monitors.
+ <nomouse>Your fingers are too fat to use this site. Get a PC</>
+%
+< buu> Cats have boundaries and dogs have codependence
+%
+< mst> did you know: there is an RFC for transmitting SOAP over SMTP
+< Zr40> mst: I did not want to know that
+< sobel> mst: I did not want to know that
+< mst> neither did I, which is why I obviously had to share.
+%
+< LeoNerd> Currently, the Voyager 1 space probe is over 14 billion miles
+ away from Earth, receding at a speed of 38 thousand miles per
+ hour, and I for one don't blame it
+%
+<erry> i've been in the UK for over 10 years now
+<erry> do i get cake
+<erry> at this stage if ther's a celebratory cake for living in the uk
+ it's probably upside down and on fire
+%
+-!- Blue-Maned_Hawk [~Thunderbi@2600:1700:e4c0:9ea0::518] has quit [Quit:
+ why do we call it oven when of in cold the food of out hot eat the food]
+%
+<sevvie> I've been bouncing between projects at work because they are pure
+ calcified snot at moving on anything.
+%
+<sobel> at some point a friend tried to describe me succinctly, and i
+ don't remember her description, but i remember my correction: i
+ just have a way of stating the obvious in such a way as to annoy
+ you the most
+%
+Coffee FIRST. Plug in the cat. Read the daily hatemail.
+Despair for the future of humanity. Buy Whiskey.
+ -- from @Stonekettle's twitter bio
+%
+< Su-Shee> sorry for my weird typos, german and english kezboard
+%
+< kd> there's a comment in the code saying the work was abandoned due to
+ oracle 8 in 2004
+< mst> kd: there is still code in DBIC to rewrite JOIN stuff to oracle 8
+< kd> I'll be in my bunk
+%
+< mst> the inside of my head is usually far more interesting than other
+ people even when sober, so, sure :D
+< erry> mst: i'm sure "interesting" is one word for it..
+%
+ * mst tries to keep his drinking to a reasonable-ish level
+< mst> after all, both my parents died of lung cancer, I've got a family
+ tradition to keep up
+< alh> Your realize your lungs aren't in your hips, right?
+%
+<Kassandry> Reminds me of the time another student complained about being
+ graded on a curve, and the teacher said "We're grading on a
+ curve because the only one who would have passed is Lacey"
+%
+< simcop2387> i cannot think of anything more appropriate.
+ https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-63423811
+< Paper> Link title(s): [ Piet Mondrian artwork displayed upside down for
+ 75 years - BBC News ]
+%
+< Rosemary> A few years back a python escaped two streets away from here and
+ the owner was just like "keep your cats indoors but honestly it'll
+ have just curled up somewhere, it's too cold for it" and sure
+ enough it showed up three gardens down the street.
+%
+< sobel> no really, you wanted php to run client side too
+ * sobel takes an antacid
+%
+<erry> testosterone implies the existence of stagingosterone and prodtosterone
+%
+< mst> we already said don't do that
+< PapaChub> As a wise person once said: "learning crazy shit is fine by me"
+< mst> don't accuse me of being wise
+< mst> I'm just a madman with a box
+%
+< dmq> leonerd: when i first read your message i thought you said
+ "midevil" instead of "nontrivial". :-)
+< LeoNerd> dmq: You know me, why would I pick the *mid* evil? Go full
+ evil or go home :P
+%
+< rmmh> "School fined after pupil suffers 'terrible burns' and loses 8
+ fingers after trying to make cast of her hands with plaster of
+ paris" what's in the box? pain
+5
+< sobel> i don't really want to be up but here i am
+< sobel> bed was warm and i was under a cat but he decided it was time
+ for breakfast
+< sobel> i don't make the rules around here, i just pay the bills
+%
+ * Altreus starts a fire
+< Altreus> not that I'm any good at it. Fucking burn
+< Altreus> I dunno how the fuck people burn their houses down with a cigarette
+ when I can't make shit burn that's designed to fucking burn
+%
+< erry> i'm not good at computers
+< mst> well, yeah, you only spent a year working for me, I had limited
+ time to train you up
+< erry> :P
+%
+-!- Netsplit over
+< mst> fuck's sake. sorry about that. thought I'd got it bolted back together
+< LeoNerd> Ahyes, I've had bolts like that...
+< simcop2387> self sealing stem bolts?
+%
+<erry> speaking of names, some times people think it's pronounced like 'eerie'
+<erry> very eerie, much enby, such blob, wow
+<erry> it's pronounced like 'error', of course
+<erry> that's why my slack 'job title' is 'internal server erry'
+%
+< ether> the cat just came and gave me a headbonk, and she smells like bacon
+%
+< Altreus> Every extra dot is an extra is
+< Altreus> That's an ellipsisis
+< mst> wut
+< Altreus> Ellipsis is 3 dots and that's 4 so it's an ellipsisis
+%
+< mst> I was a founding hackspace member because it seemed like a cool idea
+ ... but then never showed up because frankly I'd've just been underfoot
+< LeoNerd> One of our founders was quite similar
+< LeoNerd> He then moved to California and we didn't notice for quite a while
+%
+< Mithaldu> i feel like i'm having to explain a magic trick to a dog
+%
+ * ilmari hears lots of honking outside, looks at sportsball results
+< ilmari> ah, morocco beat spain 3-0 on penalties
+%
+< mst> perl lets you do stuff simply and that's Not Wrong
+< mst> but it also gives you a fuckload of extra power if you want it
+< mst> that's the aesthetic :D
+< thrig> swiss army footgun
+%
+* pedja wonders how long until "we travel back in time to steal satoshi's
+ btc stash" heist movie
+< mst> pedja: given the state of the crypto industry presumably that would
+ mean building a reTARDIS ?
+%
+< mst> I hate CDATA so much
+< huf> it's really great for incompetent php programmers when they cant
+ write escaping correctly
+< huf> CDATA gives them false hope
+%
+* erry gets under electric blanket tho
+<mst> hey. I grabbed the jumper.
+<mst> that means it's actually cold :D
+<erry> yeah that must mean it's like -40 there
+%
+15:38 <erry> AERGH
+15:38 <erry> arghhhhhhhhhhh
+15:41 <erry> argh argh argh argh argh argh
+%
+< mst> vms14: that's what try/catch is for
+< vms14> I'd say a warning would be enough
+< thrig> and then noise and then 2>/dev/null and then a critical bug gets
+ missed and Amazon Payments went down
+%
+< LeoNerd> I wonder about the other kinds of kebabs... blitzen kebab,
+ prancer kebab, ...
+< thrig> time to rein in that imagination
+%
+<mst> them: The cats have sodding dropped slugs on my bare chest before
+<mst> me: Bet that left you feeling salty
+<cat-xeger> cats always know too much.
+<cat-xeger> also, yeah, helps to get a grip.
+%
+< thrig> peace sells, but who is dying?
+< vms14> thrig: the one who gets his code mantained by mst
+< vms14> he will come with his captured rats to devour you
+< vms14> you're lucky cause you'll just make more rat juice
+%
+< perigrin> and the rats weren't captured, they came willingly ... he rescued
+ them from toke.c ... they were afraid of gnawing their way out
+ because even rats aren't sure what happens if you make changes to
+ perl's tokenizer.
+%
+< thrig> := temporary ::= super temporary :::= temporary and eject warp core
+%
+<mst> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
+<mst> fucking children
+<mauke> .oO( do not fuck the children )
+ * mst glares
+%
+< ilmari> Optimist: The glass is half full.
+ Pessimist: The glass is half empty.
+ Excel: The glass is January 2nd.
+%
+< v`> mst: supermarket has an imported from europe aisle so i looked for
+ the chocolate biscuits your pet rat liked but they're not there
+ * v` bitterly disappointed
+%
+< erry> huh, there's sun
+< erry> i think i'd forgotten what sun is
+< Altreus> I WANNA FEEL WHAT SUN IS ♫
+< cat-xeger> Stay away from the fusion reactor, dammit!
+%
+<mst> after the day I discovered a core handler in a CGI::Application
+ codebase deployed under mod perl that did part of its dispatch by
+ doing a string eval of an unvalidated and unescaped query parameter
+ very little scares me anymore
+%
+< erry> for legal reasons i'm not going to blow up westminster
+%
+< erry> *coughs a lung out*
+< erry> covid? RIP
+< Hecate> erry: RIO -> Rest In Ouzo
+%
+< mst> the only sane interaction with File::Slurp is removing it and replacing
+ it with something that actually works
+< mst> hence the rage level attached to me discussing it :)
+< ology> select rage_level from mst where discussion like '%File::Slurp%';
+%
+< peerce> 9.6 ? why such an ancient version ?
+< ButtDog> Was using a dockerfile I found. It happened to use it.
+< peerce> wow do you pick up used gum off the street, and chew it too?
+< ButtDog> Sure
+%
+< two2thehead> Why yes, it *does* look like he's using meat to bait the crane.
+%
+< feep> rent-a-friend-who-is-a-girl, the new, somehow even sadder, manga
+< two2thehead> >_>
+< feep> friendr
+< gwern> the hit new toyline, SaaSy Girl
+%
+ * gwern squints. is this a code for weird sex things
+< mst> gwern: not everything is an in-your-end-o
+< gwern> mst: ha, like I believe that coming from you!
+< mst> gwern: emphasis on 'coming' I guess
+%
+< mst> I'm still disappointed they never did a Guitar Hero: Nirvana Edition
+< mst> the custom editions usually came with an extra instrument and I was
+ looking forwards to the shotgun
+< sobel> you can play the Elvis edition on the toilet
+%
+< erry> > what's the capital of greece
+< erry> > about 20 euros
+%
+< CoJaBo> The first bad sign was finding a connecting rod in the tire.
+< mst> amateur.
+< mst> a true pro like Laura Loomer doesn't even need a connecting rod.
+< CoJaBo> Apparently, neither do we
+%
+< Obormot> What if someone on your staff is so distraught about potential
+ data loss that they're about to jump out a window
+< gwern> 'I see. you make a good case for killing yourself. once you
+ implement that, I'll close your ticket.'
+%
+< Zr40> the raw value wraps around at 2^28 as does the health value
+< mst> just apply the same code you're already using to handle SNMP data
+< Zr40> I'm not :D
+< Zr40> which I suppose means I am
+%
+< Hecate> u rox
+< nox> No I nox
+%
+< simcop2387> also there's a cat in the way and i can't see what i'm typing
+%
+< user> why is my development server restarting every request
+< user> oh, the change detection code is seeing the sqlite WAL files
+< mst> but that code defaults to only looking in lib/ and templates/
+< user> I don't like subdirs so I put everything possible in one directory
+%
+< feep> they call it 'oven' even though of out hot eat the food
+< feep> they call it 'oven' even though of out hot eat the food
+< feep> ..... oops sorry, you are not the right xterm to arrow up return in
+%
+< XORXERY> It occurred to me some years ago that the mating call of the
+ nerd is: May I put my one into your zero?
+%
+< tm604> dvorak user located
+< mst> arming lawn defence cannon
+< huf> lawns are white supremacist, so please dont defend them
+< tm604> white? the fuck you been feeding your grass?
+%
+< erry> there's screenshots of target substituting tampons for mushrooms
+< erry> r/nononono
+< mst> I guess whether that makes sense depends on whether you have a
+ Donald Trump fetish
+%
+< geir> Is there a word for misspelling words because you usually write
+ something similar? Such as serve => server, or normal => normail.
+< perigrin> I call it 'typing'
+%
+< erry> me: accidentally cmd+p on my mac terminal
+< erry> the terminal: shows me a print preview, complete with syntax
+ highlighting colours
+< erry> me: youtriedstar.jpg
+%
+<mst> heh. it just occurred to me that the people I used to refer to as
+ 'right SJWs' are even better described as 'Mirror Universe Wokescolds'
+<Kassandry> OMG WOKESCOLD LORCA
+<Kassandry> Mr Rhys, could I trouble you to whine at something
+%
+< nox> mst: Yeah saw the entire thread and when I was reading the lack of
+ caffeine part I almost walked head first in a pole in the street
+ so that was pretty appropriate
+%
+Attempting an earnest conversation with someone from Gawker on Twitter is
+like attempting to play Risk with a dog.
+ - Jesse Singal
+%
+< EvanCarroll> HALLO EVERYONE IT IS I, EVAN THE GREAT
+ * mst removes the top three layers of your skin
+< mst> BEHOLD, EVAN THE GRATED
+< thrig> probably a lot of grating for a pound of flesh
+%
+< Altreus> It's an extra skill, I've found, to build one in a tiny iron stove
+ that you can barely fit a damn log in.
+< Kassandry> Or you chop the logs smaller, burn a hotter fire, and be toasty.
+< Altreus> I tried chopping them. I broke the patio.
+%
+< dbohdan> Let's wait until Friday the 13th and see what simcop2387 posts
+ before we judge his authenticity
+< simcop2387> so you're asking for a bunch of gay porn then?
+< dbohdan> Only for verification process
+%
+ * mst wonders if docker's corporate disclosure statements include as a risk
+ factor "loss of essential institutional knowledge due to accidentally
+ forgetting to only ever buy edible crayons for the office"
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