Acknowledge some known tie bugs.

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 =head1 NAME
 
-perlfaq2 - Obtaining and Learning about Perl ($Revision: 1.18 $, $Date: 2002/12/06 07:40:11 $)
+perlfaq2 - Obtaining and Learning about Perl ($Revision: 1.20 $, $Date: 2003/01/26 17:50:56 $)
 
 =head1 DESCRIPTION
 
@@ -171,24 +171,33 @@ assistance:
 
 =head2 What are the Perl newsgroups on Usenet?  Where do I post questions?
 
-The now defunct comp.lang.perl newsgroup has been superseded by the
-following groups:
+Several groups devoted to the Perl language are on Usenet:
 
     comp.lang.perl.announce            Moderated announcement group
-    comp.lang.perl.misc                Very busy group about Perl in general
-    comp.lang.perl.moderated            Moderated discussion group
+    comp.lang.perl.misc                High traffic general Perl discussion
+    comp.lang.perl.moderated        Moderated discussion group
     comp.lang.perl.modules             Use and development of Perl modules
     comp.lang.perl.tk                  Using Tk (and X) from Perl
 
     comp.infosystems.www.authoring.cgi         Writing CGI scripts for the Web.
 
-There is also a Usenet gateway to Perl mailing lists sponsored by perl.org at
-nntp://nntp.perl.org , a web interface to the same lists at
-http://nntp.perl.org/group/ and these lists are also available under the
-C<perl.*> hierarchy at http://groups.google.com . Other groups are listed at
-http://lists.perl.org/ ( also known as http://lists.cpan.org/ ).
+Some years ago, comp.lang.perl was divided into those groups, and
+comp.lang.perl itself officially removed.  While that group may still
+be found on some news servers, it is unwise to use it, because
+postings there will not appear on news servers which honour the
+official list of group names.  Use comp.lang.perl.misc for topics
+which do not have a more-appropriate specific group.
 
-A nice place to ask questions is the PerlMonks site, http://www.perlmonks.org/
+There is also a Usenet gateway to Perl mailing lists sponsored by
+perl.org at nntp://nntp.perl.org , a web interface to the same lists
+at http://nntp.perl.org/group/ and these lists are also available
+under the C<perl.*> hierarchy at http://groups.google.com . Other
+groups are listed at http://lists.perl.org/ ( also known as
+http://lists.cpan.org/ ).
+
+A nice place to ask questions is the PerlMonks site, 
+http://www.perlmonks.org/ , or the Perl Beginners mailing list
+http://lists.perl.org/showlist.cgi?name=beginners .
 
 Note that none of the above are supposed to write your code for you:
 asking questions about particular problems or general advice is fine,
@@ -230,7 +239,7 @@ of real-world examples, mini-tutorials, and complete programs is:
        by Tom Christiansen and Nathan Torkington,
            with Foreword by Larry Wall
        ISBN 1-56592-243-3 [1st Edition August 1998]
-       http://perl.oreilly.com/cookbook/
+       http://perl.oreilly.com/catalog/cookbook/
 
 If you're already a seasoned programmer, then the Camel Book might
 suffice for you to learn Perl from.  If you're not, check out the
@@ -241,6 +250,15 @@ Llama book:
        ISBN 0-596-00132-0 [3rd edition July 2001]
        http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/lperl3/
 
+And for more advanced information on writing larger programs,
+presented in the same style as the Llama book, continue your education
+with the Alpaca book:
+
+    Learning Perl Objects, References, and Modules (the "Alpaca Book")
+       by Randal L. Schwartz, with Tom Phoenix (foreword by Damian Conway)
+       ISBN 0-596-00478-8 [1st edition June 2003]
+       http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/lrnperlorm/
+
 If you're not an accidental programmer, but a more serious and
 possibly even degreed computer scientist who doesn't need as much
 hand-holding as we try to provide in the Llama, please check out the
@@ -305,6 +323,11 @@ Recommended books on (or mostly on) Perl follow.
        ISBN 0-596-00132-0 [3rd edition July 2001]
        http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/lperl3/
 
+    Learning Perl Objects, References, and Modules
+       by Randal L. Schwartz, with Tom Phoenix (foreword by Damian Conway)
+       ISBN 0-596-00478-8 [1st edition June 2003]
+       http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/lrnperlorm/
+
     Learning Perl on Win32 Systems
        by Randal L. Schwartz, Erik Olson, and Tom Christiansen,
            with foreword by Larry Wall
@@ -346,8 +369,8 @@ Recommended books on (or mostly on) Perl follow.
 
     Mastering Regular Expressions
        by Jeffrey E. F. Friedl
-       ISBN 1-56592-257-3 [1st edition January 1997]
-       http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex/
+       ISBN 0-596-00289-0 [2nd edition July 2002]
+       http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/regex2/
 
     Network Programming with Perl
        by Lincoln Stein
@@ -370,6 +393,11 @@ Recommended books on (or mostly on) Perl follow.
        ISBN 1-56592-716-8 [1st edition January 2002]
        http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/mastperltk/
 
+    Extending and Embedding Perl
+       by Tim Jenness and Simon Cozens
+       ISBN 1-930110-82-0 [1st edition August 2002]
+       http://www.manning.com/jenness
+
 =back
 
 =head2 Perl in Magazines